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icom

64.12.116.212

"Entalphy control on heat pump" , posted Sat 21 Aug 00:19user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


We have a York 2 stage heat pump that takes care of a Transmitter site building. although we never have to use the heat mode on this unit. I would like to know about what temp the entalphy damper motor would open the outside dampers. It is 24 vac damper motor relay and circuit board sensor controlled.

Welder

 


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klrogers

68.96.218.26

"Re(1):Entalphy control on heat pump" , posted Sun 22 Aug 18:41:user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Here's a link to a graph that shows typical settings for Honeywell enthaply controllers, most manufacturers use the same A,B,C,D, settings.

Enthaply Chart

Kevin Rogers

[this message was edited by klrogers on Sun 22 Aug 18:43]

 

Xenos
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64.230.162.197

"Re(1):Entalphy control on heat pump" , posted Sun 22 Aug 11:13user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


As you have just stated it’s not temperature but enthalpy that controls it. Enthalpy controls, basically are used to allow free cooling above 55, if the air is dry enough the ability to be utilizing free cooling at 68 or 70 is possible.


There would be a chart on the unit to show the changover conditions on a graph.

Xenos.

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icom

149.174.164.72

"Re(2):Entalphy control on heat pump" , posted Wed 25 Aug 01:18user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Although I could not get a service manual for this unit I did get a installation and startup paperwork from York. You were right about the a.b.c.d curve. It could open at 65 degrees if RH was 50%. Motor has 12 terminals on it not sure what I can do to exercise it to see if dampers work or motor is locked. I do have 24 volts on terminals Tr1 and Tr. Took it out to look at it on bench But I had to put it back in unit won't run with molex connector pulled. Blding was getting hot.York paper states I can turn minimum position screw on motor fully clockwise and the energize and deenergize terminals R to G to see if damper blades run smooth. However only terminals I have on motor are So,,Sg,,To,,Tr,,N,,1,,2,,3,,4,,T,,T1,(,P and P1 which are jumpered)Tr ,,Tr1 May have to contact honeywell about this.

Welder

 

 

Xenos
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64.230.162.197

"Re(3):Entalphy control on heat pump" , posted Wed 25 Aug 08:27user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


What is the model number of the motor?

Xenos.

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icom

149.174.164.72

"Re(4):Entalphy control on heat pump" , posted Wed 25 Aug 10:30user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Lots on numbers stamped on motor I think its this first one,(M7415A1014) others are as follows--(BWCES025-26250),(W7459A1019),(AX031-00862)

Welder

 

 

Xenos
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64.230.162.197

"Re(5):Entalphy control on heat pump" , posted Wed 25 Aug 19:26user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


If P and P1 are shorted, open it and the motor should drive. Here is the manual.

http://hbctechlit.honeywell.com./techlit/PDF/63-0000s/63-2484.pdf

Xenos.

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Hal_C

24.130.92.186

"Re(6):Entalphy control on heat pump" , posted Sun 29 Aug 15:37user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


What is the problem your having with it?

 

 

icom

64.12.116.203

"Re(7):Entalphy control on heat pump" , posted Tue 31 Aug 01:39user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Blding engineer at site doesn't think they are working.I haven't had time to unhook P1 and P to to exercise the damper yet. Will try in a couple of days. (college kids are back and I and 7 others have some 34 bldings to service)

Welder

 

 

Xenos
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67.71.22.168

"Re(8):Entalphy control on heat pump" , posted Tue 31 Aug 07:33user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


If there all connected. There should be a 4x4 black box connected to it. Just turn the little micro dial at the bottom. It’s connected to P1 and p2

Xenos.

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icom

143.43.247.188

"Re(9):Entalphy control on heat pump" , posted Wed 8 Sep 21:09user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


nice cool night tonite with low humidity, rotated minimum damper position to max,dampers moved full range. looks like all is well. Thanks to everyone for the help excellant website.

Welder