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Driftwood

67.95.248.234

"Trane Service" , posted Fri 17 Jun 15:56user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


What is going on at Trane? I am hearing from several Facilities Managers and multiple sites that Trane is becoming more and more unresponsive. Is anyone else having trouble with Trane? We have been having a condensate drain blockage problem with a brand new 2004 TWE063P13FBO split system units installed for a new building. This unit has a fixed condensate tray that keeps overflowing and raining on the office occupants. The root cause appears to be clogging of the drain (which is a bitch to get to when you have to clean it out). Have asked Trane for ideas on how to solve it and we get inane service techs who just insult our intelligence (i.e. this is a maintenance issue and I can't help you). Then I hear rumours that Trane has had problems with their coils draining properly. Has anyone else seen similar issues and how did you solve it?

 


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Brian Va

65.202.244.15

"Re(1):Trane Service" , posted Mon 20 Jun 07:30user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Trane reps have always been a little holier than thou. The problem with Trane is that they KNOW they have you by the ying yang. I have noticed that Trane air handlers have a lot of return volume which sometimes results in an overlfow on the drain line/condensate pump when they shut off. Could be worse, you could have Mammoth units to contend with (like me).

What I do is hook up a wet vac to the business end of the drain and suck it clean, then put drain pan tabs in it, the weighted ones in the plastic net.

Ya can't fix it if you don't know what it's suppose to do.

 

Coolzilla

70.144.72.25

"Re(1):Trane Service" , posted Sun 19 Jun 11:34user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


I have seen this befor.
it seems that the coil is dirty has some kind of oil on it.
happens when they make the coil at the factory a good cleaning should fix it.

 

MasterTech



68.95.150.165

"Re(1):Trane Service" , posted Fri 17 Jun 20:21user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Ive had NO problems with my units. Is there a trap in the system?
Trap should be atleast 2" deep or more then 6" deep. Unit should be level or have slight tilt to the drain. Oh one thing ive had alot of problem with is when they(plumber or tech)run the units into a sink trap and the tail pipe extends past the Tee's opening and blocking the drain hole. I bet ive found 20 of these in the last 2 years. Mainly in new homes. If u need more ask all the question you would like. If u where in DWF area i might be able to do more. Sad true is Trane is letting more unqualified companys sell Trane units(By the way i love my Tranes).

 

 

Driftwood

67.95.248.234

"Re(2):Trane Service" , posted Tue 21 Jun 17:24user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


There is a trap and it appears to function properly. I am wondering if Trane undersized the integrated condensate pan?

What about the impact of the fresh air intake? Fresh air is introduced via a straight duct from the roof that ties into the return air duct right in front of the filter assembly. See rough diagram below:

OA
| |
| |
| |____________________
|-------------------| F |
| F UNIT |
| RETURN AIR f COIL |OUTPUT
| F |
| |----------------F |
| | DRAIN |
| | |___________________|

Engineer is advising that we abandon unit specific fresh air which they theorize in introducing excessive amounts of fine dust which clogs up the filter prematurely (Filers are ending up being changed every two to three weeks which seems excessive. They are proposing separate fresh air distribution fan and ductwork with additional filtering.

Client wanted split system to simplify their maintenance and is concerned whether Engineer's solution will really work or just add to their maintenance headaches. We have an extremely humid summer monsoon season and introducing unconditioned air into the space seems like it would result in more dripping from uninsulated condensate lines or insulation gaps in the refrigerent lines.

What has been your experience related to maintenance of split systems vs rooftop units? Client has other rooftop units and has not had any clogging or overflow problems.

 

 

MasterTech



68.95.238.240

"Re(3):Trane Service" , posted Tue 21 Jun 19:18user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


I agree, It would be a good test by shutting the fresh air out for now. If u have alot of dust and moisture they could clog up. If that solves it add a better filter to the fresh air intake. Like i said before i have had those problems with my Tranes but its not humid here like it is near the coast.