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pwned

67.42.154.14

"Why is Honeywell doing this to modules?" , posted Sat 2 Feb 02:24user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


I was reading through the instruction manual for the Honeywell S8610U 3009, universal intermittent pilot spark ignition module.

This unit has two dip switches
One switch sets no prepurge or 30 seconds prepurge
other switch sets 30 seconds or 90 seconds lockout.

Once you set the switch there's a jumper you pull out. Once you pull the jumper out, the setting is set in stone regardless of switch setting.

If you don't pull the switch, the module does that for you on 10th call for heat.

"This jumper (labeled P4) is used to lock the operating
sequence selected by the DIP switch settings. See Fig. 6
for jumper location.
IMPORTANT
Once the Jumper has been pulled or the module
starts the 10th “Call for Heat”, the control operating
sequence is permanently locked and cannot
be reset by replacing the jumper or by resetting
the Dip Switch."

WHY would they do that other than to deactivate universal usage feature once the part is installed to ensure new ones sell?

 


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yuri



205.200.202.162

"Re(1):Why is Honeywell doing this to modules?" , posted Sat 2 Feb 10:17user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Liability reasons. Ever since that IDIOT sued McD's for spilling hot coffee on himself all companies imagine the worst case scenario and plan for it. They don't want some DIYer/inexperienced tech etc mucking with the control and messing it up/creating a hazardous situation and blaming them for it due to lack of their knowledge.

Yuri

 

 

static



74.140.102.1

"Re(2):Why is Honeywell doing this to modules?" , posted Sat 2 Feb 21:28user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Are they serious, or are they trying to fool someone?

Remember the old S86 modules, that you either plug the automatic flue damper into, or leave the jumper plugged in? Those claimed that they wouldn't work with a jumper after having had a damper plugged in. CLAIMED being the key word there.

 

 

pwned

67.42.154.14

"Re(3):Why is Honeywell doing this to modules?" , posted Sun 3 Feb 09:42user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


http://customer.honeywell.com/techlit/pdf/PackedLit/69-1955.pdf

That's the manual that says it.

 

 

yuri



205.200.213.190

"Re(3):Why is Honeywell doing this to modules?" , posted Sat 2 Feb 22:23user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Looks like they are serious about it this time. Lots of good info on their website:

http://customer.honeywell.com/honeywell/ProductInfo.aspx/S8610U3009

I talked to a technical rep from York and he told me how the lawyers have to proof read the owners manuals for furnaces to be foolproof in case the homeowner can't follow simple instructions and does something wrong. What does a lawyer know about HVAC. Not so litigious in Canada but we are getting there.

Yuri

 

 

static



74.140.102.1

"Re(4):Why is Honeywell doing this to modules?" , posted Sat 2 Feb 22:34user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Wow , thanks for the link, Yuri.

 

 

yuri



205.200.213.190

"Re(5):Why is Honeywell doing this to modules?" , posted Sat 2 Feb 22:58:user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


You can get damn near anything you want from their very good website including a complete Tradeline products catalog in pdf form.

Check their main page:

http://customer.honeywell.com/Business/Cultures/en-US/Default.htm

Then later go to homes products, residential combustion, quick links etc. At the bottom of the product pages there are good links for pdf files. I have a very good collection of their control stuff and keep it on a CD for reference.

Yuri

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