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treefarmer

12.163.111.239

"Need info on condenser install." , posted Sat 24 May 01:20:user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


I installed a cleaned Trane XE900, model TTD730B100A0, 1989 vintage, outside condensing unit into an existing system, leaving the original evap A-coil in place. From the plate on the old unit,I think it was mfg. in 1970 and 3 1/2 ton. Had galvanized tin enclosure and a slanted front where the fan was mounted. Don't know the brand.
After pulling a vac. for 12 hours, I added R-22 until I had 60psi suction pressure and 12 amps on the compresser on a 60 degree day.
Today it is 86 degrees and 88% humidity and after running the unit for 45 minutes the suction pressure is 74psi and compressor is at 14 amps and the suction line temp is 45 degrees at the outside tap. There is a little condensation on the compresser. The inside discharge temp is 65 degrees, inside return air is 78 degrees.
Is this enough info to make a determination as to whether this is satisfactory or would it operate better to use the original A-coil that came with the XE900.

The house is a 1960's construction and has had more attic insulation added at some point in time.
I'm doing this for some friends that just don't have the means to get a new system installed. The old condensing unit finally died, compressor was locked and the fan motor was not running up to speed and local elec. motor shop said the fan motor made by Electric Motors and Specialties Inc. is obsolete.
Any info would be appreciated--------------THANKS.

[this message was edited by treefarmer on Sun 25 May 14:56]

 

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Houston204



98.196.66.53

"Re(1):Need info on condenser install." , posted Mon 26 May 00:08user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


You are either overcharged or are not moving enough air across the evaporator coil.
The saturation temp of R22 at 74 psig is 44 degrees F.
Suction line temp minus saturation temp = superheat.
45 - 44 = 1 degree superheat.
You want 15 degree superheat, plus or minus 3.

A suction line temp reading at the evaporator coil will be more accurate.




This is a questionable installation. I would never have attempted it.

"Tip of the Day" Remember to remove power first.

 

 

treefarmer

12.163.111.239

"Re(2):Need info on condenser install." , posted Mon 26 May 10:22user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Thanks for the chart and info. I'll try and clean their evap coil and do a more accurate check on the pressure and temp. to get proper superheat now that I know how to check it.

I take it that the amp draw on the compressor is not a good indicator of the system having the correct charge.
Thanks again for sharing your time and knowledge on this, I really appreciate it.

 

 

treefarmer

12.163.111.239

"Re(3):Need info on condenser install." , posted Mon 26 May 17:15user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


I lowered the suction down to 68psi and after 15 minutes the vapor line temp was 55 degrees. If I figured it right that gives me 15 degree superheat, if everything else is ok.
The inside discharge air temp is now 54 degrees, so it looks like that has really helped.
THANKS Again Houston204, I really appreciate your info.