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j-dog

98.220.75.227

"Bryant Heat Pump w/ Honeywell Thermostat" , posted Sat 10 May 22:10user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


I need help! I have the following settings for a Bryant Heat Pump with a Honeywell VisionPRO Thermostat (pre-existing in the house with an air conditioner / furnace combination).

If I hook up a piece o'cr@p thermostat at the furnace, then everything runs as expected. However, if I go inside the house, and configure the Honeywell thermostat to run, then the fan won’t turn on when requested, and the heat pump won’t run in either heating or cooling mode. If I turn on the emergency heat, then the fan and the furnace both kick on, and the screen says “aux heat.”

I think it’s a programming error rather than a wiring error, but I’ve included both wiring and programming information just in case.

Bryant Heat Pump (223 Legacy series)
Bryant Furnace (Plus 80t – 80% efficient)
Honeywell TH8320U1008 VisionPRO thermostat

Wiring Information
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Y2 - not connected
L - not connected
E - not connected
AUX - White
S1 - not connected
S2 - not connected

Rc - jumper connects to R
R - red
O/B - orange
Y - yellow
G - green
C – blue

Programming Information (neglecting date / time settings and obvious stuff)
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0160 – 4 (7-day programmable)
0170 – 7 (most doubted setting – indicates 2 heat / 1 cool heat pump (with aux heat)
0190 – 0 (O/B terminals control valve in cooling)
0200 – 1 (fossil fuel backup)
0210 – 1 (no external temp sensor – says External fossil fuel kit controls backup heat)
0220 – 3 (1st stage compressor cycle rate)
0250 – 3 (2nd stage heat cycle rate)
0270 – 5 (Emergency heat cycle rate – indicates furnace less than 90% efficient)
0300 – 1 (Auto changeover between heating and cooling)
0340 – 0 (no remote sensor)

 


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Houston204



98.196.66.53

"Re(1):Bryant Heat Pump w/ Honeywell Thermosta" , posted Sat 10 May 22:51user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Verify that the pins connecting your new stat to the subbase are intact (and not broken or bent)
Verify that your stat wires have not broken at the stat terminals.

It appears to be wired and configured correctly except that you need a jumper between Aux and E.
I see brown used for C (common) on Carrier and Bryant diagrams. I doubt that this is your problen since you have display.



This is probably one of the best stats available today , I own the TH8321 myself, but it is possible that you have a bad stat.

"Tip of the Day" Remember to remove power first.

 

 

j-dog

98.220.75.227

"Re(2):Bryant Heat Pump w/ Honeywell Thermosta" , posted Tue 13 May 20:03user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Well, you were definitely right about the jumper between Aux and E. That improved the switch over to the furnace when the heat pump failed.

We talked to Carrier (Bryant, and maybe also Payne ... soooo many brands in one building). They had us switch to a Bryant Preferred Series dual fuel thermostat (Part # T6-PRH01). This is actually a very nice thermostat.

New Problem: We installed the thermistor on the heat pump, and it's not correctly reporting the outside temperature to the inside thermostat. It's not our biggest problem, so we'll look at that later.

Old Problem: The heat pump still turns on when heat is requested, but immediately turns off again. We considered the idea that both the furnace and the heat pump were turning on together, and that both running together was causing a press switch fault. We disabled the white wires on the furnace, and the heat pump still turned off after just a few seconds. Air conditioning runs just fine.

With our old problem still in mind, and the Carrier/Bryant recommended thermostat with much simpler wiring in place, we are now assuming we have a bad pressure switch, or a bad control board.

The pins on the Honeywell stat were just fine. We actually tested them to confirm which signal was being sent.

 

 

Houston204



98.196.66.53

"Re(3):Bryant Heat Pump w/ Honeywell Thermosta" , posted Tue 13 May 23:42user profileedit/delete messagepost reply


Is your air filter and evaporator coil clean?
What is the difference between supply air and return air temperature at the grills? 18 degrees?

I doubt that it is a faulty pressure switch. It is remotely possible though.

The thermister in your heat pump will not communicate with your stat. You would need a separate outdoor temperature sensor possibly TSTATXXSEN01-B. I thought that one ships with the stat.
The part number for your new stat is tough to look up. What is the model? I'm more familiar with Carrier part numbers.




The Carrier dual fuel stat is okay, but I prefer the Honeywell Touchscreen. Too bad we couldn't get that one to work.

"Tip of the Day" Remember to remove power first.