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| northernfitter | "Tinsmithing in Ontario question for locals" , posted Wed 18 Jun 20:35  
Since going into business for myself I have found a huge demand for HVAC installs in custom homes in our area and have done well because of it. The sore point for me is not having my tinsmith license. Currently I sub out all my tin work which in a way is nice because of the ease of my end of the job. Here is my fear, the tinsmith I use has 36 years of experience and is near retirement. He doesn't want to give up his other job because of his retirement plan and here I sit building up a reputation for doing custom homes which could potentially screw me in 5 or 6 years when he retires. Does anyone know if there is a way through the apprentice process to get myself licensed as a tinsmith up here without hiring one seeing as they are like bloody gold up here.
14years as a service tech in Ottawa and the valley. www.reliableheating.ca.
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| "2 cents" , posted Sat 21 Jun 19:09  
Fitter, I know this won't help you, but in California a C-20 license includes tin smith. They really are rough in Canada. How can you put in a system if you can't do the tin? You got high taxes and medical insurance but you can't do the work?
C20 - Warm-Air Heating, Ventilating and Air-Conditioning Contractor Business & Professions Code Divison 3, Chapter 9. Contractors, Article 4. Classifications
A warm-air heating, ventilating and air-conditioning contractor fabricates, installs, maintains, services and repairs warm-air heating systems and water heating heat pumps, complete with warm-air appliances; ventilating systems complete with blowers and plenum chambers; air-conditioning systems complete with air-conditioning unit; and the ducts, registers, flues, humidity and thermostatic controls and air filters in connection with any of these systems. This classification shall include warm-air heating, ventilating and air-conditioning systems which utilize solar energy.
Authority cited: Sections 7008 and 7059, Reference: Sections 7058 and 7059 (Business and Professions Code)
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| | northernfitter | "Re(1):2 cents" , posted Tue 24 Jun 08:00  
The problem that began to evolve over the last 20 or 30 years in Canada at least and I am sure you probably have the same problems in the U.S is that ductwork was being slapped into houses with no actual design/heat gain/heat loss or air flow calculations being done. Most houses of the period have huge differences in air flow from one room to the next giving temperature differences through the homes of as much as 5 degrees. Now most municipalities up here require a detailed duct design by a residential duct designer and the ductwork needs to be done by a licensed tin smith. The license for tin smithing up here is a five year apprenticeship. A licensed gas fitter or oil burner tech up here can change out a furnace or a/c in an existing system doing the tin work necessary in the change over but in a new home all duct work is done solely by a tin smith. That being said the law has been around for years it's only now that the government has started cracking down on unlicensed guys doing tin work due to some really brutal jobs done in some resi sub devisions.
14years as a service tech in Ottawa and the valley. www.reliableheating.ca.
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