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sdhir

76.106.40.238

"stalled condenser fan" , posted Sat 23 Aug 17:31

This is a goodman 5-ton unit about 11 years old - has functioned with no problems and little but regular maintenance like changing the filters, cleaning the coils etc.
Now when I turn it on, the evaporator unit inside works fine, the compressor starts buzzing but the condenser fan does not start. If I nudge it a little it starts and the entire system works fine until the unit turns off when the inside set temperature is achieved.
The restart doesn't happen as per the thermostat setting - the system needs that manual nudge again.
The dual run metallic capacitor looks fine (not burnt or swollen up) and there is a strange but okay looking device (off-white ceramic/plastic about 1" in diameter and 2" long) that has ceramite cmo, ceroc 305c9, b11416-58 9526, written on it.
This device seems to be connected in parallel to the capacitor and is also shorted by the yellow wire on the two ends.
Arnoldservice.com has a similar (size and shape)unit called a thermal start kit but the one from Arnold has different numbers.
1. I am not sure what its function is.
2. Is it worth removing both the ceramite thing and the capacitor and have them tested?
3. If these are okay then may be the fan (an a.o.smith creation of 1995) is too tired and needs to be replaced.
Will be most obliged by any and all comments!

Sandy

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"Re(1):stalled condenser fan" , posted Sat 23 Aug 17:49

The thermal start kit is only for the compressor. DON'T remove it, it either works or doesn't.
The fan side of the capacitor could be weak, or the fan motor could be going bad.
To start, you could have the capacitor checked for the fan circuit, if less than 6% of the rated (5, 7.5, etc.) IT needs to be replaced. If the capacitor checks ok, then you will need a new fan motor.

sdhir

76.106.40.238

"Re(2):stalled condenser fan" , posted Sat 23 Aug 18:00

Many thanks TnNATE1412 - this thermal start thing was bothering me. With this out of the way I can take out the dual run capacitor after grounding it and check it out on Monday - the parts stores are closed today and tomorrow. Will report back. Have a great weekend!

Sandy

sdhir

76.106.40.238

"Re(3):stalled condenser fan" , posted Mon 25 Aug 12:33

Dear TnNATE1412 - After I changed the dual run capacitor ($17) the unit is working normally. The mechanic from a local HVAC company had come ($55) and declared fan needed to be replaced ($300) and didn't even bother to check the capacitor even when I had mildly suggested to do so. Thanks again.

Sandy

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"Re(4):stalled condenser fan" , posted Thu 28 Aug 00:54

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